You could also go to Tom Bisio's website ( to see an article about Ba Gua Zhang instruction that has some background information about Vince. He has written a book about Li Zi Ming's Ba Gua Zhang system and the forward to Tim Cartmel's book about Wang Ji Wu's Xing Yi Nei Gong system there are also articles by or about Vince Black to be found in the CD ROM edition of the complete back issues of the now defunct Ba Gua Journal published by Dan Miller. Vince trained with many Chinese teachers both in Taiwan and the People's Republic of China, and founded the North American Tang Shou Association as a vehicle to conduct research about Chinese internal martial arts. Vince is a GM in Kajukenbo Emperado Method. Bill Schettino, who trained in Kajukenbo under Sijo Emperado when Sijo was living with Vince in San Diego, has nothing but nice things to say about Vince. Tom Bisio combines over 40 years experience in the martial arts and Nei Gong practices with over 25 years of clinical experience in traditional Chinese medicine. I've heard Tom Bisio, who many consider one of the best Xing Yi and Ba Gua teachers in the United States say in his usual modest manner that Vince is 'heads and shoulders above me in ability' both in Chinese internal arts and Chinese medicine. I train under two of Vince Black's friends and have met him on a few occasions. I'm not sure if we've corresponded about Vince Black, so if this is repetitious information please forgive me!
